I am looking forward to engaging with others about my work.
Kind Regards,
ALEX
I am looking forward to engaging with others about my work.
Kind Regards,
ALEX
Dear Alex,
The paper is well written. The focus of the research is on how you can encourage independent enquiry amongst your students through the use of a virtual learning environment (VLE).Â
In the Summary section you say, I have developed from a commitment to propositional knowledge (p. 1). It would help if you provided the reader with an example lesson or activity to show how you worked as a secondary school science teacher i.e. what you mean when you say that you have developed from a commitment to propositional knowledge.
You refer to the GCSE as a conveyor-belt system (p. 4) - is there any reference within the GCSE syllabus about the need to foster independent learning? Why are you so committed to the idea of independent learning? Why do you think this can be promoted through the use of a virtual learning environment? It would help if you placed your research in the context of current literature on independent learning and the use of a virtual learning environment with student teachers.
On p. 5 you refer to a 'community of practice'. Is your idea of a community of practice similar to Etienne Wenger's concept of a community of practice?
On p. 8 you refer to the 10-week course. You will need to help the reader by providing them with some background context. Who were the students? How many students were on the course? What year group?
On page 9 you refer to the following data: log book, postings, discussion forums, e-mails, student course evaluation sheets, and previous modules for the Masters study programme. You have included some of this data in Appendix 1 and 2; however, it is still in the form of data.
As EJOLTS is an international journal it is important to explain terms e.g. GCSE, BA ITE.
Overall
The focus of your research is on how you can encourage independent enquiry through the use of a virtual learning environment. You will now need to return to the data and integrate it in a meaningful way in order to provide evidence of independent learning through the use of a virtual learning environment. I hope that you can take time to work on a further draft of this paper.
Best Regards,
Margaret
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Dear Margaret,
Thank you for your recent comments regarding my submission to EJOLTS. I have attached a revised version of my paper which have, hopefully, addressed the points that you have made.
In response to your comments I have;
a) provided a context for the way in which I feel I used to teach.
b) While there has almost always been reference to independent learning within the National Curriculum, it is the fact that classes are driven by exams that this is often not seen. I hope that I have already articulated why I am so committed toindependent learning on p6 and throughout the rest of the article with regards to my values.  I have integrated further,current research regarding VLEs and how they can encourage independent learning and communities of knowledge throughout the text and not just in one specific area.
c) Yes, it is about Wegner's community of practice that  I refer to, although I have modified this somewhat to include Lave and Wegner's ideas about community of knowledge (and referenced it)
d) p8 states the context of the research with regards participants
e) I have used my data to create further evidence and have included this in the significance of my findings, along with further evidence of my own learning in relation to work with critical friends.
f) I have explained all national terms.
I have also taken on board the comments from my other reviewer and have made adustments in line with these - I have posted responses to these separately
Kind Regards,
ALEX
Dear Margaret and Jack,
I am really sorry, but would ask that you ignore my last posting and treat the attached as my final submission of my paper.
I have been trying to get to grips further with your ideas that I have not demonstrated evidence of my students' independent learning. Following discussions with critical friends I feel that I probably have but did not highlight specifically what I was looking for. I hope I have stengthed this area by articulating this prior to introducing the main findings. I have also developed the reasons for my interest in this area and why I believe the skills of independent learning for lifelong learning are imperative.
On top of this I have tidied up the URLs, links to video clips, and figures in-line with the submission guidelines.
I apologise if this extra posting causes any confusion or extra work and look forward to hearing  from you soon.
Kind Regards,
ALEX
Dear Jack,
Thank you for making comments on my paper. I attach a copy of my latest submission and hope that I have been able to make some of the changes that you suggest. This submission also incoroporates changes following suggestions made by Margaret Farren (responses to her comments have been made on a separate posting).Â
I have;
a) sorted out the missing reference and embedded a screen shot of the YouTube video
b) I hope that the evidence has been strengthened by my pointing to specific times within the video and then explaining these ideas further. Thank you for that suggestion - it makes a lot of sense.Â
c) I have not been able to include images from the VLE. I build each VLE specific to the group I am teaching and when they graduate the module is, unfortunately, deleted.
d) I hope that I have strengthened the evidence of working with critical friends and how this has influenced my learning and in turn how I have made this learning explicit
e) I believe I have developed the section; 'potential significance of my findings', with further detail of what my data has shown me.
Your thoughts are welcomed,
Kind Regards,
ALEX
Dear Jack and Margaret,
I am really sorry, but would ask that you ignore my last posting and treat the attached as my final submission of my paper.
I have been trying to get to grips further with your ideas that I have not demonstrated evidence of my students' independent learning. Following discussions with critical friends I feel that I probably have but did not highlight specifically what I was looking for. I hope I have stengthed this area by articulating this prior to introducing the main findings. I have also developed the reasons for my interest in this area and why I believe the skills of independent learning for lifelong learning are imperative.
On top of this I have tidied up the URLs, links to video clips, and figures in-line with the submission guidelines.
I apologise if this extra posting causes any confusion or extra work and look forward to hearing  from you soon.
Kind Regards,
ALEX
Hi Jack,
Yes, you are right it does get frustrating when a reviewer asks for additional work! However, both yours and Magaret's questions and comments have in-turn pushed me into gaining a better understanding of my work - so my thanks.
I attach the most recent (and hopefully final!) version of my work and hope that you feel that you can now recommed it for publication.
Kind Regards,
ALEX
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Hi Margaret,
Thanks once again for having a look at my work.
With regards to "providing evidence to show how your use of the VLE developed these skills of independent learning," I feel I have hit an impassse. I have been through the main findings section and noted where I feel I have provided evidence for this.
As stated in the article, I was looking for areas where students were self-motivated, planning their own learning, reflective and self-evaluative;
p15 Para 1- comments on how 2/3s of the students thought the VLe had encouraged them to work independently
p15 para 2 - points out that some of the students were evaluating the sessions but did not contribute to the online discussions (lurkers)
p15 para 3 - students comment how they have used the VLE to plan their own learning outside of session times
p16 para 1 - pointing out how a student has used the discussion forum to evaluate their own learning
p16 para 2 - evidence of an increase in dialogue and self-motivation to contribute when discussing the students' work
p16 para 2 - examples of how students have reflected on their own learning through using the discussion forum - eg waddling in puddles like ducks
p18 para 14 - quote taken from discussion forum showing how the student has evaluated their own learning.
Would it be possible to tell me if these don't fit the criteria of evidence, are there not enough examples?
Kind Regards,
ALEX
Dear all,
Here is the latest version of my account. I hope that I have explicated the evidence in more detail. I deliberately do not do this in the heading 'how did I generate evidence from the data', but leave the explanations until 'main findings'.
Please also note that I have come to realise that my claim to knowledge is how I have provided a context and opportunity for the students to explore the skills of independent enquiry. I think this is different to stating that I have explicitly helped develop these skills, which I feel was not the aim of the work . I hope this makes sense and puts a different point of focus to the work.
Kind Regards,
ALEX
Dear Jack,
Thank you once again for reviewing my paper.
To save putting you through reading my paper umpteen times again (and me having to continually re-write) I plan to make one last submission before withdrawing the paper. For this reason I hope you do not mind me asking a few questions to ensure that my interpretations of your comments are correct and that the rest of the paper is suitable.
1. If I was to use the title you suggested; “How do I provide a context and opportunity for the students to explore the skills of independent enquiry to generate my own living educational theory?” are you happy that I have explicated the evidence in enough detail to answer this question?Â
2. From what you have read would you say, while not developing an epistemology of symbiotic practice, that my practice is symbiotic in nature ie I am making my learning explicit alongside those of my students, and that I have explained this in enough detail (mainly in the paragraph on p2 underneath the picture)? Or would you suggest that this is something that I should omit?
3. What are the time scales for the next edition of E-jolts?
4. And the all-encompassing question; is there anything else you feel needs further clarification?
Thank you in advance,
Warm Regards,
ALEX
Hi Guys,
Here is the latest version. I have renamed the paper and changed the focus to 'developing a symbiotic practice' rather than to 'developing an epistemology of symbiotic practice'
Kind Regards, ALEX
Dear Alex – I’ve enjoyed reading your redrafted paper and would like to recommend it for publication.
I’ve just two points I’d like to raise with you.
The first point is related to the paragraph below:
So that I could generate evidence from this data, not only did I look for evidence where I believed the VLE had encouraged independent learning, but I also drew on my values of mutual respect and equality to provide my living standards of judgement. In this way I looked for examples within the data that showed that I have acted in a way that manifests these values. I believe that if I can demonstrate that these values are being realised it will provide evidence that I have created a supportive online environment where students can learn from and not just retrieve information, and thereby improve the quality of my teaching and their learning. I have also looked for areas where students felt that I have inspired or motivated them.
I don’t think that this does justice to the balance in your data analysis that follows this paragraph. I see you being open to data that shows that you are not living your values as fully as you want to. I liked the honesty in your acknowledgement of embarrassment in seeing some of the responses (I know this feeling well!). I wondered is a slight amendment to the above paragraph might communicate to your reader that you didn’t just look for evidence that confirmed your views, but that you were open to evidence that showed that there were still improvements to be made?
So that I could generate evidence from this data, not only did I look for evidence where I believed the VLE had encouraged independent learning, but I also drew on my values of mutual respect and equality to provide my living standards of judgement. In this way I looked for examples within the data that showed that I have acted in a way that manifests these values. I believe that if I can demonstrate that these values are being realised it will provide evidence that I have created a supportive online environment where students can learn from and not just retrieve information, and thereby improve the quality of my teaching and their learning. I have also looked for areas where students felt that I have inspired or motivated them. I want to emphasise that I looked for data that were showing that I was living my values and data that shows I still had some way to go in living my values as fully as I wanted.
The second point is just to do with the urls in your Delong and Hartog references. I’ve amended the references with 5th December 2009 links that open the theses. The older urls no longer connect to the doctoral theses.
Hartog, M. (2004) ‘A self study of a higher education tutor: How can I improve my practice?’ PhD University of Bath, 2004. Retrieved 5th December 2009 from http://www.actionresearch.net/hartog.shtml.
Hi,
Please find attached my paper in Ejolts format. I am having some issue around indenting the 2nd line of each reference and also wondered if the appendices are in the correct format.
Kind Regards,
ALEX
Hi Alex,
I have read through your revised paper 'Working towards a Symbiotic Practice' and recommend it for publication in the next issue of EJOLTS.
I am glad you found the open review process helped to strengthen your paper. Good luck with your developing use of the VLE.
We can sort out the formatting and Appendices before the final publication.
Best Regards,
Margaret
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