Thank you Jack for this delightful link with Jocelyn's paper on the gifts of doctoral learning.
Following up on your thoughts here Jack: I've highlighted in bold below the parts I think are really significant for what I might add to my paper.
I'm wondering if the creative space you have contributed to with Jocelyn, that has enabled her to recognise herself as a Doctor Educator, might nudge you from seeing yourself as a doctoral teacher to seeing yourself as a Doctor Educator in that you have influenced Jocelyn's recognition of herself?
I think this is about making the leap in self-recognition from Doctoral supervisor/teacher, to Educator, and how this can bring others into its embrace.
Jocelyn's paper on 'Gifts of the Dissertation Process' might reflect back to you the educational influence of the 'creative space' through which Jocelyn recognises herself as a Doctor Educator.
Your thoughts in connection with Jocelyn make me acknowledge another influence which I'd be happy to develop. This was how I have worked to build a doctoral community and partnership between Oxford/Hawaii. One moment - which seems to me symbolic and quintessential - was when Jocelyn and 5 of her Hawaiian colleagues, joined us at the Oxford Brookes EdD colloquium. They opened the day by singing the Hawaiian anthem in front of the Hawaiian flag, one part of which includes the Union Jack. Kawehi said, "this reminds us that we have always been connected in some way with the United Kingdom".
Jocelyn and I agreed that this was an incredibly moving moment, and something utterly unique for my Oxford Brookes colleagues. So I think I'd like to share this and then bring into the frame of discussion the synergies between our doctoral communities on opposite sides of the planet, and the beauty of Jocelyn's paper as representative of this.
It might be that Jocelyn's gift may also influence your perception of yourself as a Doctor Educator?
Yes, I like the idea of sharing the 'gifts' Jocelyn describes and relating them to I, and to I: Thou in the way we have worked together (and hope to continue to do so as I embark on a book proposal that I hope will involve Jocelyn and the Hawaiian educators she introduced me to).
Thank you Jack for those ideas and specifically locating them in Part 1 ii where I look at the links between creative space and my doctoral pedagogy. I think it would fit very well into that section.
Then in the conclusion I might pull all the threads together with two points:
where I can bring together Dan, Kathleen, Jenny, Adrian, Jocelyn, myself in a trans-Pacific, pre- and post-doctoral partnership.